THE LADY AND THE TRAMP ... En Zona 4 está la TRAMPA !
por MartinD1 » Vie Jul 21, 2006 8:47 pm
En Z1 y Z2 existe una edición de 2 discos. Estas ediciones suman la friolera de 14 GB de información entre ambos. El Zona 4 solo trae 7 GB. Entonces, en donde está la trampa ???
Comparación de MENUES.
A la IZQUIERDA la edición de 2 DISCOS, a la derecha la ZONA 4 DE 1 DISCO:
En el Zona 2 UK no dice BONUS FEATURES ya que el Disco completo es de Bonus Features y sería reiterativo.
Deleted Scenes
- "Turning the Tables" with Optional Introduction by Eric Goldberg (4:41)
- "The Arrival of the Baby" with Optional Introduction by Eric Goldberg (8:16)
El Zona 4 solo trae la primera.
Music & More
- "The Siamese Catsong - Finding a Voice for the Cats" Featurette (4:16)
Idénticas.
Games & Activities
- "Disney Virtual Puppy" DVD-ROM Feature
- "DisneyPedia - Going to the Dogs" Featurette (9:21)
- Your Inner Bark - Personality Profile Game
El Zona 4 no incluye la Featurette Going to the Dogs
Comparación de MENUES.
A la IZQUIERDA la edición de 2 DISCOS, a la derecha la ZONA 4 DE 1 DISCO:
En el Zona 2 UK no dice BONUS FEATURES ya que el Disco completo es de Bonus Features y sería reiterativo.
Deleted Scenes
- "Turning the Tables" with Optional Introduction by Eric Goldberg (4:41)
- "The Arrival of the Baby" with Optional Introduction by Eric Goldberg (8:16)
El Zona 4 solo trae la primera.
Music & More
- "The Siamese Catsong - Finding a Voice for the Cats" Featurette (4:16)
Idénticas.
Games & Activities
- "Disney Virtual Puppy" DVD-ROM Feature
- "DisneyPedia - Going to the Dogs" Featurette (9:21)
- Your Inner Bark - Personality Profile Game
El Zona 4 no incluye la Featurette Going to the Dogs
Backstage Disney
- "Lady's Pedigree: The Making of Lady and the Tramp" Documentary TRUNCADO EN ZONA 4
-- Return to Marceline (5:27)
-- A Perfect Little Lady: The Story of Lady and the Tramp (12:14)
-- Ruff Animation (11:32)
-- Canine Chorus: The Music of Lady and the Tramp (8:01) NO ESTA EN ZONA 4
-- Teaching a Dog to Talk: The Voices of Lady and the Tramp (4:28 ) NO ESTA EN ZONA 4
-- Pretty as a Picture: Art and Design (8:20)
-- Epilogue: Return Home (2:34)
- "Finding Lady: The Art of the Storyboard" Featurette (13:02) NO ESTA EN ZONA 4
- "Original 1943 Storyboards" Featurette (11:51) NO ESTA EN ZONA 4
- Excepts from "Disneyland" TV Shows NO ESTA EN ZONA 4
- Theatrical Trailers NO ESTAN EN ZONA 4
- Lady and the Tramp Galleries IDENTICO (A SIMPLE VISTA)
-- Visual Development (105 images)
-- Character Design
--- Lady (18 images)
--- Tramp (18 images)
--- The Siamese Cats (18 images)
--- Miscellaneous Characters (22 images)
-- Storyboard Art (42 images)
-- Layouts and Backgrounds (41 images)
-- Production Photos (68 images)
- Excepts from "Disneyland" TV Shows NO ESTAN EN ZONA 4
-- Introduction by Eric Goldberg (3:59)
-- "The Story of Dogs" (Excerpt) (17:33)
-- Promo Trailer for "The Story of Dogs" (2:54)
-- "Cavalcade of Song" (Excerpt) (21:34)
- Theatrical Trailers NO ESTAN EN ZONA 4
-- 1955 Original Theatrical Release (3:39)
-- 1972 Theatrical Re-Issue (0:41)
-- 1986 Theatrical Re-Issue (1:24)
CONCLUSIONES:
- La edición Zona 1 no trae subtítulos en el Disco 2 me imagino, si los trae por favor que alguien que la tenga lo confirme. Sería la edición ideal.
- La edición Zona 2 UK trae subtítulos en FRANCES/ALEMAN/HOLANDES en el Disco 2, una "trampa" ya que el Disco 1 si viene con subtítulos en Español. Caí en la trampa.
- La edición Zona 2 ESPAÑOLA es de 1 disco como la nuestra.
http://www.dvdgo.com/product~prodid~115346.htm
- Si solo te interesa la peli, con 19,90 tenes la Zona 4 con una buena cantidad de extras subtítulados al español.
- Si sos un completista y necesitas subtítulos, solo quedaría la Zona 1 como posible opción si alguien confirma el Disco 2 subtitulado, ya que la Zona 2 UK no trae el Disco 2 subtitulado y la Zona 2 española es igual a la Zona 4 (trae 1 solo disco).
Ah, el Zona 1 incluye lo siguiente que no está ni en la Zona 2 de 2 discos, ni la Zona 4 de 1 disco:
DISCO 1
- The Film in pan & scan [ES UN PAN & SCAN DE LA VERSION WIDESCREEN, NO LA VERSION ORIGINALMENTE DISEÑADA 4:3 (ACADEMY RATIO) QUE EXISTIA EN EL DVD ORIGINAL ZONA 4 Y QUE EN ZONA 1 NO SE CONSIGUE DIRECTAMENTE]
Yes, you heard it right: there is no Academy format version on this release either. In its place is a 4x3 pan and scan transfer, which is confirmed to have been sourced from the CinemaScope version of the film rather than the differently framed Academy version. This is most disappointing, and leads me to question who on earth thought it would be a good idea to include a pan and scan transfer on a DVD designed for serious collectors.
General notes about the alternate 4:3-version: The film was made simultaneously in both a widescreen "CinemaScope version (2.55:1)" and a standard "Academy ratio version (4:3)". At this point it seems however, that the 4:3-version on the R1-disc is not the "original Academy version", but rather a pan&scan -version created from the new 2.55:1 print. Please see more info and some screenshots from UltimateDisney.com
- Disc 2 Preview (1:00)
- Bonus Trailers
- Soundtrack(s): English Dolby Digital 3.0 (PISTA DE AUDIO ORIGINAL DE CINES)
The Region 1 release gains a much-appreciated Dolby Digital 3.0 track, replicating the multi-channel audio presentation that accompanied the film's CinemaScope theatrical release. The mono track which would have accompanied the Academy version is nowhere to be found, but since a transfer of the Academy version is not present either, this is perhaps not surprising. In any event, I can live without it.
DISCO 2
Music & More
- “Bella Notte” Music Video by Steve Tyrell (2:52)
"LA" REVIEW: Lady and the Tramp: Platinum Edition DVD Review
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/ladyandthetramp.html
COMPARACION GRAFICA: Lady and the Tramp
Region 1 (USA) Limited Issue - Buena Vista
vs. Region 1 (USA) Platinum Edition - Buena Vista
vs. Region 2 (UK) Special Edition - Buena Vista WINNER
Either way, the US transfer is a slightly inferior to the UK variant. It's softer - unavoidable, admittedly, since NTSC has nearly 100 fewer lines of resolution than PAL, and in a film with a ratio this wide resolution is everything. However, it also has more visible compression artefacts. Initially, I thought that this was because two versions of the film were included on the same disc, but the widescreen version of the US edition actually has a higher overall bit rate than its UK counterpart! What's going on? Perhaps someone encoded the US version using Very Fast Mode. EL TRANSFER ZONA 1 ES INFERIOR AL ZONA 2 DE UK.
USA vs. USA vs. UK (P&S vs. WIDESCREEN vs. WIDESCREEN)
USA
USA
UK
COMPARACION COMPLETA: http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/writin ... tramp.html
AGRADECIMIENTOS: A LEO "F.R.I.E.N.D.S. por facilitarme la edición Zona 4, a Amazon.co.uk por la edición Zona 2 (bah, igual bien saladita que me salió, no sé que les agradezco) y a todos los sitios de donde saqué información para hacer una reseña los mas completa posible de esta joya de Walt Disney.
DISCO 1
- The Film in pan & scan [ES UN PAN & SCAN DE LA VERSION WIDESCREEN, NO LA VERSION ORIGINALMENTE DISEÑADA 4:3 (ACADEMY RATIO) QUE EXISTIA EN EL DVD ORIGINAL ZONA 4 Y QUE EN ZONA 1 NO SE CONSIGUE DIRECTAMENTE]
Yes, you heard it right: there is no Academy format version on this release either. In its place is a 4x3 pan and scan transfer, which is confirmed to have been sourced from the CinemaScope version of the film rather than the differently framed Academy version. This is most disappointing, and leads me to question who on earth thought it would be a good idea to include a pan and scan transfer on a DVD designed for serious collectors.
General notes about the alternate 4:3-version: The film was made simultaneously in both a widescreen "CinemaScope version (2.55:1)" and a standard "Academy ratio version (4:3)". At this point it seems however, that the 4:3-version on the R1-disc is not the "original Academy version", but rather a pan&scan -version created from the new 2.55:1 print. Please see more info and some screenshots from UltimateDisney.com
- Disc 2 Preview (1:00)
- Bonus Trailers
- Soundtrack(s): English Dolby Digital 3.0 (PISTA DE AUDIO ORIGINAL DE CINES)
The Region 1 release gains a much-appreciated Dolby Digital 3.0 track, replicating the multi-channel audio presentation that accompanied the film's CinemaScope theatrical release. The mono track which would have accompanied the Academy version is nowhere to be found, but since a transfer of the Academy version is not present either, this is perhaps not surprising. In any event, I can live without it.
DISCO 2
Music & More
- “Bella Notte” Music Video by Steve Tyrell (2:52)
"LA" REVIEW: Lady and the Tramp: Platinum Edition DVD Review
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/ladyandthetramp.html
COMPARACION GRAFICA: Lady and the Tramp
Region 1 (USA) Limited Issue - Buena Vista
vs. Region 1 (USA) Platinum Edition - Buena Vista
vs. Region 2 (UK) Special Edition - Buena Vista WINNER
Either way, the US transfer is a slightly inferior to the UK variant. It's softer - unavoidable, admittedly, since NTSC has nearly 100 fewer lines of resolution than PAL, and in a film with a ratio this wide resolution is everything. However, it also has more visible compression artefacts. Initially, I thought that this was because two versions of the film were included on the same disc, but the widescreen version of the US edition actually has a higher overall bit rate than its UK counterpart! What's going on? Perhaps someone encoded the US version using Very Fast Mode. EL TRANSFER ZONA 1 ES INFERIOR AL ZONA 2 DE UK.
USA vs. USA vs. UK (P&S vs. WIDESCREEN vs. WIDESCREEN)
USA
USA
UK
COMPARACION COMPLETA: http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/writin ... tramp.html
AGRADECIMIENTOS: A LEO "F.R.I.E.N.D.S. por facilitarme la edición Zona 4, a Amazon.co.uk por la edición Zona 2 (bah, igual bien saladita que me salió, no sé que les agradezco) y a todos los sitios de donde saqué información para hacer una reseña los mas completa posible de esta joya de Walt Disney.
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